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Interesting read about Spectrum and Cable Cards ..
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Ugh. Not looking forward to the day they pull the plug on cableCARD.
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Channels DVR and TVE is my backup when my primes fail ...I get all my cable channels in TVE.
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I will probably continue to use SageTV for OTA and imported media after Spectrum pulls the plug on CableCARD. I'm finding that my family's viewing habits are starting to shift away from Cable TV to streaming services, because that's where most of the best content is being made available. I don't really want to pay for Cable TV for the privilege of only being able to solely access their content via TVE streams or their app(s), especially when I'm finding less and less worthwhile content to view on traditional cable TV. Hopefully it will still be several years before I am forced to make that choice.
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IMO the only reason to have cable is sports. There isn't much alternative other than buying a bunch of other packages that cost as much as cable, and sometimes you have to deal with local blackouts as well.
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While I do look forward to faster upload speeds, I hope Spectrum finds a way to keep cable cards working too. Hopefully Spectrum still has a lot of cable boxes out there that utilize a cable card internally which will push them to find a solution that keep the cards working. If not and it's only customers like us that are renting the cards, then we can kiss them goodbye. Spectrum is not going to work very hard to keep cable cards active for the 0.0001% of customers that still rent them.
If it does goes away, I'm not sure we will keep Spectrum. The only reason we keep it now is that I can record 6 channels at once for a single $3/mo cable card rental fee and I can watch those shows on any TV/device with SageTV. We don't rent a single cable box in our house. I'm not going to spend another $50, $75, $100 on cable box rentals on top of the already expensive TV service.
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Does the average residential customer really need the same upload speed as their download speed? To me, the advantage that they are claiming seems targeted toward business users, to grab business customers away from AT&T and other companies offering symmetrical internet speeds. And Spectrum will likely increase their pricing for that service offering as well.
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The main reason to want fast upload speeds is if you are doing stuff like video editing at home and have to upload to the cloud.
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I am in the same boat as sic0048 with a similar setup I think and an investment of $1000+ in mini pcs and encoders. So far so good but we have Optimum here and they will do what they want. Hope there's enough TiVo and cable cards in their boxes to keep CC alive.
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Bundle your cable to share with your family and friends. I have 80mbit/s upload speed which is plenty fast for my brother to use an HD300 (and firestick) to access live cable tv (xfinity cable card) and all recordings over Sage with no transcoding needed. It's almost fast enough for Blu-ray streaming but unfortunately there are frequent interruptions. Like Wayner, I buy cable tv almost exclusively for sports and most online options like league pass are susceptible to blackout restrictions and/or the seek/skip behavior is intolerable compared to Sage.
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So to kill off a viable technology that has been used for a decade or two, so that customers can get additional bandwidth that sits unused for 90% of the time, seems unfortunate to me. Spectrum has a history of forcing things like this down their customers throats, whether they need it or not. I could get by with less than 200mbps download speed, but that is their minimum offering take-it-or-leave-it. And I don't think that choice is due to technology limitations, but was instituted based on marketing and profit motivations.
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Remember who did this - Ajit Pai, appointed by….
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I received an ominous survey from Spectrum about 6 months ago so this doesn't surprise me at all.
I have 2 CableCards with HDHR Primes so possibly I will be okay, but I need them as I can't quite get all the locals OTA due to distance and terrain. A while back I worked on an EventGhost-AutoIt script method to use a web browser on a PC as a live tuner, but it wasn't totally reliable since the Spectrum web page doesn't make it easy to get to a particular channel. There's also a delay and limits on the number of streams among other issues. Might be time to start working the kinks out of it, though, just in case.
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![]() just curious where Comcast is on all this... |
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I'm not into sports so much, but I like to record stuff from the cable. If I could trick a Roku into changing the channel by a signal from SageTV, I could probably go full stream.
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Once Verizon drops CC, I think I'll be dropping Verizon and finally moving to one of these new fangled streaming services..
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