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Old 11-11-2009, 06:42 PM
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AverTV HD DVR

Has anyone tested Sage with this card, or have any expierience with it?

http://www.avermedia-usa.com//AVerTV...il.aspx?Id=482

Reminds me of a BlackMagic card
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:46 PM
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It would be nice to get a few more details. Like does this do all the work on-board or does it use the CPU? I like the option of recording HD as MPEG2 for Comskip purposes. But if this thing bogs down my CPU it would be a deal killer (and if it goes for ~ $100 I really doubt it has much HP).

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Old 11-11-2009, 09:09 PM
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This may be why...

" It produces H.264 content for mobile devices: the output resolution is only 320x240, which is smaller than most modern smartphone displays "

From UberGizmo article here.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:41 PM
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This may be why...

" It produces H.264 content for mobile devices: the output resolution is only 320x240, which is smaller than most modern smartphone displays "

From UberGizmo article here.
I'm not sure the ubergizmo article really looked at all the functionality. It only talks about the HDMI input, not component, S-vid, etc. Also, looking at the manual it looks to me like it can record at 1920 x 1080, amongst others. The file size for 1 hr of MPEG2 is 6.9 GB which is similar to OTA HD broadcasts.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:45 PM
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It's worth watching, for sure. Didn't look at the manual. I have an allergy to them
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:10 PM
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Looking at the user manual it says
 Note: To preview HDMI source with HDCP (High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) encryption, a
copy-protection scheme of HDMI specification, your HDMI display devices must be HDCP compliant.
If your display devices do not support HDCP, a message box will appear (shown as following):

and

Please note that HDMI contents with HDCP encryption cannot be recorded.

I don't know much about the Black Magic card, but I think it has similar restrictions.
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:36 PM
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Considering that this can record via component, wouldn't this be akin to a HD-PVR only as a card, rather than an external USB device? It 'may' finally give an alternative to those that have issues with the Hauppauge devices.

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Old 11-11-2009, 11:44 PM
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Considering that this can record via component, wouldn't this be akin to a HD-PVR only as a card, rather than an external USB device? It 'may' finally give an alternative to those that have issues with the Hauppauge devices.

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That was my thinking. However, if it requires the CPU to do the "heavy lifting", it would be more like the Black Magic card.

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Old 11-12-2009, 05:02 AM
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From this description on their website:

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The package includes our AVer MediaCenter software application with advanced software encoding algorithm engine and built-in schedule recording features.
It sounds like all the encoding is done in software and thus would be CPU based. It doesn't describe any hardware encoding on the card in the specs.

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Old 11-12-2009, 05:20 AM
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That was my thinking. However, if it requires the CPU to do the "heavy lifting", it would be more like the Black Magic card.

Wayne
The only real advantage this card would have over the Black Magic card would obviously be price. Too bad it's not hardware based. And too bad the spurs engine encoding card is so pricey and doesn't seem to currently play nice with any encoding engine rather than tmpec enc IIRC.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:07 PM
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The manual for the software also talks about other TV Tuner cards so it is difficult to tell just what recording formats are supported for this card. It would be interesting if it captured mpeg2 at full HD resolution. The press release touts low res h.264 for portable devices but I can't find anything definitive on something else. I suspect it might be awhile before Sage added support in any event.

Not sure the HDMI would be useful if it blocked HDCP encrypted content. I suspect everything on my DirecTV receiver is encrypted but I really don't know for sure.

Available right now on their website for $99.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:28 PM
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The manual for the software also talks about other TV Tuner cards so it is difficult to tell just what recording formats are supported for this card. It would be interesting if it captured mpeg2 at full HD resolution. The press release touts low res h.264 for portable devices but I can't find anything definitive on something else. I suspect it might be awhile before Sage added support in any event.

Not sure the HDMI would be useful if it blocked HDCP encrypted content. I suspect everything on my DirecTV receiver is encrypted but I really don't know for sure.

Available right now on their website for $99.
Well SageTV could always use t as a Network Encoder, similar to the Black Magic card
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