HVR-2250 Setup Help

[smo]

Hi,
And thanks for the help, I really do appreciate it!

I'm trying to setup my new HVR-2250 in SageTV 6.6. However, in source setup, only two analog inputs are listed for the 2250. Shouldn't there be four sources listed for this card? (2 analog and 2 HD?)

I'm trying to install this with a PVR-500 analog tuner as well.

This is a fresh installation of everything, including Windows, so there are not any previous drivers or settings involved.

System Details:

Windows XP
Hitachi 1.0TB SATA
AMD Sempron 2.7Ghz
2.0 GB RAM
SageTV 6.6
Hauppage PVR-500
Hauppage HVR-2250
Comcast Cable
(Cable signal is split to the two cards via an amplified splitter...)


Thanks again for the help!

[smo]

Okay, it appears that I have the digital side working now, with this one question left:

I can only get Sage to setup two sources for the 2250 card: 1 for digital, and one for analog.

Is this normal? The card should have a total of 4 tuners (2 analog, 2 digital) and be able to watch\record any combination of those 4.

However the sage sources only show 1 of each, regardless of how many times I try to add them in.

Thanks for the advice.

[jbrandon]

There are only two physical tuners on the card but you can record one analog/one digital – two analog or two digital.

[smo]

Yes, I got that there are only two physical tuners. However, I was under the impression that you added the two tuners, twice. (Setup 2 analog sources in sage, and then setup 2 digital sources in Sage, for a total of four "sources" - of which only two can be used at a time)

Is this correct, or do you just add the digital side once, and the analog side once?

Thanks

[simonen]

I just installed this card last week and I ran into a similar question.

It turns out that, Yes, although there are only 2 physical tuners, you can indeed setup 4 sources for analog and digital QAM tuning.

I found that you need to setup the analog sources first (TV Tuner). Once you have completed that, you then can setup the HD sources (Digital TV Tuner).

Once I followed that order, it worked just fine.

Worth noting: I did have trouble scanning the digital sources, so found that restarting the Sage service (if you use that) after you setup the analog sources seemed to help with the digital channel scan when you are setting up the HD source.

[smo]

Thanks, following that order seemed to do the trick. Now my only problem is that one of the tuners on my old PVR-500 won't tune. (Just shows static, and won't change channels.)

Perhaps a bad card, although it worked a day earlier when I pulled it from my old system.

Anyone else using a PVR-500 with the HVR-2250?

[darinh]

Originally Posted by smo

Thanks, following that order seemed to do the trick. Now my only problem is that one of the tuners on my old PVR-500 won't tune. (Just shows static, and won't change channels.)

Perhaps a bad card, although it worked a day earlier when I pulled it from my old system.

Anyone else using a PVR-500 with the HVR-2250?

Yes, I am also using this combination of cards. All of the tuners seem to work for me, although I have only been running this combination for a couple of days so I haven't had all of the tuners recording at once yet.

[Trepidati0n]

I did as simonen did, and it worked great

[VCRUser]

Originally Posted by simonen

I just installed this card last week and I ran into a similar question.

It turns out that, Yes, although there are only 2 physical tuners, you can indeed setup 4 sources for analog and digital QAM tuning.

Does that mean you can record 4 shows (2 digital and 2 analog) all at the same time, or just 2 at a time in any combination of digital or analog?

Also, I understand that this is a PCI-Express x1 card. My Dell GX280 has only an x16 PCI-Express slot. Will the 2250 work in that slot?

[ChaOConnor]

Only two shows at any time. So either:
- 2 Digital OR
- 2 Analog OR
- 1 Digital & 1 Analog

That should work, I've used it in larger PCI-E slots before.

Good luck!

[Trepidati0n]

I've noticed an issue with the 2250 and running Sage on WHS (not sure if this snippet matters). If there are 3 recordings at the same times but only 2 tuners available (what a 2250 is)...Sage doesn't indicate a conflict but rather just says "oops, didn't record, no tuner present". I think this because it thinks there is 4 tuners available (per how they were added) but in reality only 2.

e.g. I added each tuner as analog then added search tuner as digital.

Do I have to put in my old 150's and remove the analog portion from the 2250 so I can still record without worrying about missing shows (not, I missed two shows and WAF took a hit)? I hope there is a way to fix this since I enjoy having less cabling to deal with.

Thanks in advance.

[jpaddock3000]

I can't seem to get the digital tuner part working on the 2250. I tried setting up the analog sources first and then the digital ones, but Sage just over writes the analog tuners. I also noticed the tuners show up as WinTV-7164 Analog Capture, but Windows shows the device as a WinTV-HVR-2250 (8851). Any idea why Sage is showing the device as something other than what it actually is? If I have the tuner setup as digital and I tune to a station, it just sits there and doesn't do anything. It doesn't matter which station I tune into. I plug my antenna directly into my TV, and I'm able to receive the channels, so I know the antenna isn't the issue. If I change the tuner to be analog, then Sage is able to tune to the channel, but since most everything is Digital Only, I'm not able to receive any channels except for channels in Mexico (I live pretty close to Mexico). I had Sage Version 6.6.1 and then tried upgrading to 6.6.2 to see if that would fix anything, but that didn't work either. I'm running Windows Home Server and I only watch TV on media extenders. Wired MVP's (Yeah, I'm still old school).

This appears to be the section in the sage log where I tried to tune to a station.

Fri 5/7 23:10:21.957 [FinalRender-000dfe0c5b16@562534] MiniClient sending GFX_ASPECT=1.3333334
Fri 5/7 23:10:21.958 [MiniUIClientReceiver@1da692f] Got UI size update to 720x480
Fri 5/7 23:10:21.996 [EventRouter-000dfe0c5b16@116b32] setUI(sage.b4@12132a6[Program Info]) histIdx=2 uiHistory=[sage.b4@5730f8[Dynamic Menu by nielm], sage.b4@11a9732[Guide], sage.b4@12132a6[Program Info], sage.b4@eea80c[MC MediaPlayer OSD]]
Fri 5/7 23:10:21.997 [EventRouter-000dfe0c5b16@116b32] VideoFrame got registration of a subtitle UI component: null
Fri 5/7 23:10:21.997 [EventRouter-000dfe0c5b16@116b32] VideoFrame got registration of a cc UI component: null
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.107 [MainMsg@1189cbb] stopEncoding0 trace 4
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.107 [MainMsg@1189cbb] Stopped graph res=0x0
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.107 [MainMsg@1189cbb] stopEncoding0 trace 5
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.109 [Seeker@a16b7c] NOTHING TO RECORD FOR NOW...
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.109 [Seeker@a16b7c] Checking video directories for new files
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.110 [VideoFrame-000dfe0c5b16@4a1908] VF processing job null nPlayin=false
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.110 [VideoFrame-000dfe0c5b16@4a1908] VF thread is now waiting for 0:00:00.000
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.111 [Seeker@a16b7c] Diskspace checking is running
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.111 [Seeker@a16b7c] Verifying existence of all TV media files in database fixDurs=false avoidArchive=true
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.129 [Seeker@a16b7c] MediaFile failing verify testFile=E:\SageTV\TV\11at11-8482307-0.mpg isFile=true len=0 isTV=true isRecording=false
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.129 [Seeker@a16b7c] Removing MediaFile because it failed verification:MediaFile[id=8484101 A[8482307,8068198,"11 at 11",25019@0507.23:00,15] host=pvr encodedBy=Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture #2 XETVDT format=MPEG2-PS 0:00:00 0 kbps [] E:\SageTV\TV\11at11-8482307-0.mpg, Seg0[Fri 5/7 23:10:11.088-Fri 5/7 23:10:21.880]]
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.130 [Seeker@a16b7c] Deleted media segment file E:\SageTV\TV\11at11-8482307-0.mpg dtime=0 len=0
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.131 [Seeker@a16b7c] Enforcing keep at most limits for the files...
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.131 [Seeker@a16b7c] Seeker clearing unwanted and partial files...
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.136 [Seeker@a16b7c] Seeker waiting for 434 mins.
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.138 [Seeker@a16b7c] Seeker awoken
Fri 5/7 23:10:22.138 [Seeker@a16b7c] MemStats: Used=77MB Total=97MB Max=399MB

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jason

[davephan]

I have two HVR-2250 tuners. One is configured for two analog tuners, the other for two digital tuners. I'm not sure how you would use one of each, since there is only one TV RF connector. One of my two analog tuners is fixed on channel 3, the other is fixed on channel 4, the outputs of two Comcast DTA boxes. Both DTA box outputs are first combined with a signal combiner, not a simple splitter, then fed into the HVR-2250 TV RF connector. The other HVR-2250 TV RF connector is attached to a roof top antenna for digital TV OTA signals.

You could check your tuner configuration. I attached a couple examples. One is from HVR-2250 analog configuration and the other is from another HVR-2250 with a digital configuration.

Dave

[jpaddock3000]

I've just attached what my setup looks like. It is very similar to yours except I'm actually using my local EPG lineup. When I try and watch TV, the screen just freezes and doesn't even attempt to play. If I allow it to sit on the screen long enough though, I do end up seeing the green bar increase, indicating that something is trying to record.

Thanks for letting me see a screen shot of a working setup.

Any other ideas out there?

Thanks

[jerryt]

Originally Posted by jpaddock3000

I've just attached what my setup looks like. It is very similar to yours except I'm actually using my local EPG lineup. When I try and watch TV, the screen just freezes and doesn't even attempt to play. If I allow it to sit on the screen long enough though, I do end up seeing the green bar increase, indicating that something is trying to record.

Thanks for letting me see a screen shot of a working setup.

Any other ideas out there?

Thanks

I have one extra entry on my "Source Details" page.

The extra entry is at the bottom of the jpeg you posted and reads;
"Broadcast Standard: ATSC NET"

Hope that helps you.

Note I posted in another thread how I got my 2250's tuners to work by copying the frq files.
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...&postcount=147

[jpaddock3000]

Originally Posted by jerryt

I have one extra entry on my "Source Details" page.

The extra entry is at the bottom of the jpeg you posted and reads;
"Broadcast Standard: ATSC NET"

Hope that helps you.

Note I posted in another thread how I got my 2250's tuners to work by copying the frq files.
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...&postcount=147

Jerry,
I didn't have any of those .frq or .par files. I went ahead and created 2 blank .frq files with the same names you used and created the two .par files with delay 600 as their contents. I'm still not able to tune to any station. Can you please upload the .frq file so I know what is needed in my file?

Thanks

[jerryt]

These files are for my local area.

[jpaddock3000]

OK, I feel dumb now. I didn't realize that I needed to do a channel scan. Once I did that, the files created and all is good. Thanks for all the help.