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SageTV Placeshifter Discussion related to the SageTV Placeshifter application produced by SageTV. Questions, issues, problems, suggestions, etc. relating to the SageTV Placeshifter software application should be posted here. |
View Poll Results: Should Placeshifter / Client software just be one unit / license | |||
Yes, this would make things nice & easy |
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24 | 61.54% |
No, (if you don't think so reply to this post with why if you don't mind) |
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15 | 38.46% |
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll |
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I think the problem here is not solved by placeshifter and client being merged, but rather placeshifter gaining the ability to play ripped DVDs -- or at the very least play/transcode certain titles from DVDs. I've often wished I could play a DVD on placeshifter. (and no -- bringing all my DVDs along with me is not the answer)
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Yeah I agree, I find it strange that if you use an extender (HD200/HD300), and its suposedly always placeshifting, that it can play dvds, but yet the placeshifter software cannot.
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It's not that it's always placeshifting - it's that placeshifter is always extending (that is, simply displaying a UI that is rendered on the server). The placeshifting difference, however, is whether it is playing the raw stream, or a dynamically transcoded stream.
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It's not always placeshifting though. And I haven't tried, but I bet DVDs don't work on extenders in "placeshifter mode" (ie over the internet).
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i have many PCs in my house and it is nice to be able to run Placeshifter on any and all PCs without having to buy a license for each one. Rarely do I watch content on these PCs - it is more often a case of going into the Sage UI to check something, delete shows or schedule a recording.
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well i'm glad all this thread got some feedback. . .
i'll stick to my guns in that i think from a software perpective they should just be bundled together and run in different modes. . .i get they are different architectures. . .but i just seems to me like this would make life easier. . . on the other hand, if placeshifter could just play dvds/blu ray, i suppose that would solve my problem. . . i would just take a hd200/300 with me on the road when travelling for work, but using a laptop actually works better, b/c the network connect is usualy so spotty, and you have to have cookies set b/c you need to login and accept terms for paid or free connection. . .which makes connecting hardware a bit more tricky. and also it would mean (if wired) no connection for my laptop. anyway it was great to get everyone's feedback. . .
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I also find that RDPing into the server can cause you to have to restart the Sage UI (but not the server process) as it has issues with changes in resolution and/or color depth. RDPing can be more of an issue if you are outside of your LAN as well.
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You can use something besides RDP to log into the server (VNC would be best) - It doesn't create a new session (or take over an existing session) - it simply clones/remotes the console session, so no problems with resolution changes, etc.
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I'm pretty sure I've done some plugin installs via RDP, but maybe not. I've found that many (most?) of the plugins I use require a restart of the client. It's annoying, but it works. Using WHS, I'll RDP into the server, but not to the client (mainly because I can't, since it's on 64-bit W7). That said, what I do via RDP outside the LAN is only critical stuff which can't wait until I get home and, to date, I've not run into anything I couldn't do in an emergency. Thankfully, most of it can wait until I get home, though.
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There are hacks to allow RDP on home premium w7, I use them routinely. That said, As mentioned earlier, UltraVNC is free, and will work on any OS - without any hacks.
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You can install the hack but this still isn't 100% perfect as I like to use WHS as the front end for my Remote Access and as far as it is concerned Win 7HP (even with the termsrv.dll changed) is not available for RDP connections.
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Hey there,
I voted no as they're different products with different architectures and if it's not convenient for SAGE to build them as a single image I'd rather they went with what was the most stable, easy to manage approach. The client and client like capabilities (i.e. you need to use Placeshifter client on Linux servers iirc) only exist on the Windows platform (or do macs have a client too???). I'm assuming that there's a good reason for this but some clarification would be welcome. If SAGE has to manage the Placeshifter source/app anyway then I reckon that's fine. I'm happy to run both. What I would be interested in seeing more than the two being combined is to add some local caching options to the Client so that it could work in disconnected mode. Allow the most recent x shows or y GB of shows to be automagically synched when I plug my laptop/tablet into the network so that when I'm roaming about I have a ready supply of TV to watch. A similar scheme for videos and music would also be cool. What do you reckon? Mick. |
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#39
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Sage client = fat client. GUI runs locally and accesses database/files remotely.
Placeshifter client = remote control client. Think "VNC" or "RDP", but better. Those are some bad analogies, but maybe it will help wrap the naysayers head around the architecture. |
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