Poll - What would you buy if you could?

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by davephan

Maybe the plug-in would work, but the Playon software itself looks like it is still only for Windows according to Playon's web site.

Dave

Yes-correct. But if you have at least one Windows PC client just run the plugin on it. I run mine on one.

Gerry

[jorton]

Can anyone remember the original prices from the web store?

Sagetv Media Center (Server) $79.99?
Sagetv Client $29.99?
Placeshifter $29.99?
HD300 Extender $149.99?

[darcilicious]

I recall those same prices for the server, client, and extender (never paid attention to the placeshifter).

Here's a snapshot from archive.org of the main page on Dec 23, 2010
http://web.archive.org/web/201012230...://sagetv.com/

[jorton]

Originally Posted by darcilicious

I recall those same prices for the server, client, and extender (never paid attention to the placeshifter).

Here's a snapshot from archive.org of the main page on Dec 23, 2010
http://web.archive.org/web/201012230...://sagetv.com/

Well, isn't that fancy

Just wanted to work out the total sales amounts based on the number people have indicated they would have bought.

Thanks,

J

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by korben_dallas

Anyone have a rough estimate of how many HD300's SageTV might have kept in stock at any particular time?

I know that I am simplifying things, but would it be that difficult for Google to open the SageTV store to sell off the remaining stock of HD300's?

Assuming they have very many in stock, and assuming production has stopped, they will need to hold on to them for at least the warranty period of the recent sales (1 year). After that, yes though SHOULD be able to liquidate them. Now the client/server/placeshifter licenses, I see no reason they couldn't sell them at a reduced 'no-support, no-refunds' price.

[SomeWhatLost]

why? unless its in the 10's of billions of $$$ Google wont care...

I guess if it is in the couple hundred $K range you might be able to find a disgruntled ex-sage employee who did not get their very own private island to break into Jeff's garage while he is off on his private Google Financed Island (GFI?) and steal the leftover HD-300's and some license's (licensees,licensi?)...

wasn't Opus complaining that he didn't get his own private island? hmmm....
wonder where Opus lies on the Gruntled vs Disgruntled scale?

[rparker]

I need both about 4 server lic and about 16 client

[jorton]

So things are pretty lop sided when you look at $'s,

As of August 15 at 6:00pm Pacific,

14 Sever Licenses (@ $79.95) for a total of $1,119.30

150 Client Licenses (@ $29.95) for a total of $4,492.50

320 HD300 Units (@ $149.95) for a total of $47,984.00

27 Placeshifter Licenses (@ $29.95) for a total of $808.65

Total $54,404.45

Pretty sure that even if we could buy them the wife factor would bring this down by about 40% for about $32,642.67 in possible sales.

If the old Sagetv crew were feeling generous and the almighty Google allowed it maybe they could do another "exe" mod to make the clients serial number free and only miss out on $4500ish in sales. Users will still have to have a valid server license to use the serial number Clients.

Then if there are any left, maybe a HD300 clearance sale down the road when the last officially purchased HD300 is out of warranty to cover some of the 320 units still wanted. If there aren't any surplus HD300s at the end of the warranty period the "free" Client licenses would probably help users to at least be able to build small HTPC's instead.

Just thinking out loud...

Of course if Sagoogle has something awesome up their sleaves, then totally just ignore what I said

J

[IVB]

Originally Posted by jorton

Then if there are any left, maybe a HD300 clearance sale down the road when the last officially purchased HD300 is out of warranty to cover some of the 320 units still wanted.

Thing is, in that 1 year, chips will get more powerful, prices will come down. The "reference hardware for an HD300 type solution" will be better vetted and the lower power demand solutions will be able to do more (ie BR). Who knows, someone may even find a config that works, post it for us.

At that point, the HD300 #s would drop even more. I put 2 in my vote, but if in 12 months I can get a quiet, low power HTPC with a BR drive for $300, I wouldn't buy any single function HD300's.

Thats the thing about hardware, it gets obsolete the second its shipped. By next year, the HD400 would have been out.

[jorton]

Originally Posted by IVB

Thing is, in that 1 year, chips will get more powerful, prices will come down. The "reference hardware for an HD300 type solution" will be better vetted and the lower power demand solutions will be able to do more (ie BR). Who knows, someone may even find a config that works, post it for us.

At that point, the HD300 #s would drop even more. I put 2 in my vote, but if in 12 months I can get a quiet, low power HTPC with a BR drive for $300, I wouldn't buy any single function HD300's.

Thats the thing about hardware, it gets obsolete the second its shipped. By next year, the HD400 would have been out.

I totally agree, but there are some that only want the small footprint of the HD300 and for them it will last many years with their current setup, look at how long the HD100/200's have been in use.

From the results to date, I can see a definite need for some client licenses to allow existing users that have invested heavily in their setups to add the last few clients then need to complete their solution. I don't think that we will ever see a HD300 clearance sale but additional client licenses would allow mini HTPC's to fill that void and only users with valid server licenses would be able to use them.

For the record this poll is meant to only show the running total of client/server/placeshifter licenses and HDXXX units that people are needing to complete their systems and possibly come up with a solution that Sagetv/Google will entertain.

Cheers,

J

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by davephan

The Linux server requires the SageTV activation server. If Google simply turns off the activation server, the Linux licenses cannot be activated again, which would be a problem if you ever had to rebuild your Linux server, unless you have an image that would work.

I know I'm a Jeff/SageTV fanboy, but I just don't see that happening. I would expect Jeff to release some kind of patch or workaround before turning off the activation server. He'd probably have to legally do that because the license agreement doesn't have an "experation" date on it.

[jorton]

As of August 18th at 4:45pm Pacific,

22 Server Licenses
191 Client Licenses
400 HD300s
38 Placeshifter Licenses

PS - No disrespect intended, I know you can all add, I have a spreadsheet that gives me the totals and other "dribble" I share

[LexLS]

I was just thinking about replacing a HD200 with a HD300 so my vote is 1 HD300. I just wanted to get the better HDMI port and speed. If that worked well I probably would have replaced my other 200's.

[jorton]

As of August 27 at 9pm Pacific,

28 Server Licenses
216 Client Licenses
463 HD300's
46 Placeshifter Licenses

[korben_dallas]

In case anyone thought the demand was over-inflated, a certain auction site is completely sold out of HD300s.

[Fuzzy]

Yep, I've noticed that.. also points to the fact that really not many people are leaving sage.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yep, I've noticed that.. also points to the fact that really not many people are leaving sage.

More accurately, the people staying are producing more demand for HD300's than the people leaving can supply.

[gplasky]

See-we played this wrong. We all should have said we were giving up on sage and we could have waited for all the HDxxx's to show up on eBay. Like fish in a barrel.

Gerry

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by gplasky

See-we played this wrong. We all should have said we were giving up on sage and we could have waited for all the HDxxx's to show up on eBay. Like fish in a barrel.

Gerry

Actually, Fuzzy has been buying up any and all HDx00's he can find (and a few MVP's for good measure) so he can prove that Sage is just as popular as it was before the acquisition

(Only pulling your leg Fuzzy, please don't take offense )

[Fuzzy]

hehe... no, I'd have to leave some on the market, so you could see that they are still fetching a high price. That is what proves that the demand from people staying is still significantly greater than the numbers of people leaving.